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Am I A Good Guy or A Bad Guy in Sbobet88?

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October 16, 2021 0 Comment

Have you ever done something in a poker game, or for that matter in your everyday life, that you had mixed emotions about? Something that you felt was correct at the time but was bothering you just the same? I’m not talking about the old definition of mixed emotions which is, “Watching your mother-in-law driving over a cliff in your new Mercedes.” I am talking about an incident that had you questioning your honesty, and has you in a moral dilemma. You might ask yourself how you would have handled this situation.

Question

Something happened last Friday night that is bothering me. This has never happened to me before, although I’ve seen others do it intentionally, and I’ve been on the receiving end of it before. Let me explain:

A 20/40 hold’em game, a wild, gamble-it-up-style game. Several people are in the pot, I’m holding J8s and flop a flush and a straight draw. It’s checked around on the flop, an ace hits on the turn. It’s checked around to me, and I bet hoping everyone will just fold and I can win it right there. There is one caller, a 9 hits the river, and he checks, I bet, the dealer tells me that the other player is “all in”. I pull back my bet, and say “I think I made my straight”, and push out the 8 and jack. The other guy mucks his hand without showing it.

The dealer looks at my hand and says, “No straight, only jack high.” I honestly misread my hand. The other player now says to the dealer “he didn’t have a straight?” He is very calm and otherwise quiet. The dealer pushes me the pot but some of the other https://www.simplylearnt.com/  players ask for the floorman. I just leave the chips sitting there. The floorman rules that since he didn’t protect his hand, and it was mucked, I get the pot. It was about a $240 pot. I really had mixed emotions on my options,

I could push him the pot and say “Sorry, I made a mistake.” That seemed bogus since I could have had the best hand anyway.

I could give him 1/2 the pot but that also seemed bogus as most likely one of us was due the whole pot.

I could have apologized and kept the pot, but that also seemed phony. It might be interpreted wrong by him, and lead to an escalation of bad feeling.

I could just shut up and keep the pot, which is exactly what I did.

I had never seen this player before, and he seemed exactly like the kind of player I like in a game — friendly, passive, and loose. The last thing I wanted to do is discourage this type of player from coming back. I felt badly, but I kept the pot. What would you have done?

Opinion 1

This is a grey area. At many clubs if you intentionally overcall your hand, it can be declared dead and the other guy gets the pot. In this case you didn’t exactly overcall your hand, and the other guy didn’t protect his hand, so you should get the pot. Don’t make a big deal about it, and just go on to the next hand. Assuming he had you beat, the other guy probably blames himself more than he blames you. Calling further attention to his mistake by discussing it would only make him feel worse.

Opinion 2

All of this would not happen if hands were turned up at the showdown. If you are embarrassed to show your hand at the showdown, you probably should have mucked it earlier. There should be a rule that all hands that call at the river should immediately be turned face up on the table and the dealer declares the winner. I get a little tired of the games people play waiting for someone else to show their hand first, as if they were ashamed of what they called with.

Opinion 3

I agree that if I were sure he had a better hand, let’s say he flashed it, or an impartial third party had seen it, I’d give him the pot. In the loser’s case, we don’t really know. The guy was all in, so he could possibly have had a worse hand such as a draw that missed. He was surprised that the winner didn’t have the straight, but never actually said that he could beat it.

Arty’s Opinion

Actually this should be a cut and dry case of a player being responsible for protecting his hand. The problem is that in today’s society everyone wants someone else to be responsible for what they themselves do, and accept none of the responsibility themselves.

A perfect case is a person spilling hot coffee on themselves, then blaming the seller because the hot coffee was too hot. The same person would be complaining if the coffee were not hot enough the day before. You might get a different ruling from different casinos for the following reason, in trying to help please customers, and make everything all sweetness and light, they sometimes go overboard in protecting the person who made the mistake. The ruling should be based on the facts, and the rules, not on being a nice guy. Dare I say, “not to protect dumb mistakes.”

Rules are rules and should be enforced equally and the same all over. If you slowly roll through a stop sign and there are no cars around for miles, you can still be given a ticket. The only question the officer will have to ask you is, “Did that sign say stop, or slow down”, and you will have to pay up.

I had something happen to me a few days ago in an Omaha 8 game. There were three of us at the showdown and one player had the nut low. I was sure I had the nut high which was a straight. The third player had his cards up but covered by his hand so you could not see them completely. The dealer looked around and pushed me half the pot for high and the other half to the low hand. He then pulled the flop into the mucked cards before taking the players cards. Out of the blue the player who had his cards covered with his hand said, “I think I had a full house.” The guy sitting next to him said he did. No one else saw it. The floor was called and I was ordered to give him the high half pot that I had won.

Normally I would have said, “I want the dealer to reconstruct the flop exactly as it was before he scooped it into the muck.” I held back when my better judgement overcame my anger. I didn’t do it because I wanted to be a nice guy, I had an ulterior motive. I was a big winner in this game and didn’t want to start any hard feelings and have anyone leave. The dealer said to me, ” I am sorry sir, I made a mistake.” I just couldn’t resist saying “You’re not half as sorry as I am.”

Now go win money.

 

 

 

 

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